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	<title>Comments on: IBM&#8217;s Stance Against OpenXML Is Increasingly Confusing</title>
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	<description>Notes from fourty one degrees south...</description>
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		<title>By: oliver</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thus far IBM have claimed a special position in this debate on the basis that they have no commerical or competitive position. 

The reality though appears to be different, it seems that this is all about the commercial and competitive position of IBM, and probably a couple of other well known corporations who have yet to step into the light. 

At the end of the day the IBM&#039;s engineers can argue for one thing, but the business will make its decisions based upon customer and market demand.

It will be entertaining to look back on this whole process 10 years from now, maybe then will we know the real roles of the various participants.

As for the question of who has a right to play a role in the debate... well, it is an open debate playing out both in the marketplace and within ISO, so all voices are valid. Employees of Microsoft, Sun and IBM, my uncle fred, my uncle fred&#039;s tennis partner, the chap I met as I got off the tube in London two weeks ago whos name I can&#039;t remember, and anybody else who has a view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus far IBM have claimed a special position in this debate on the basis that they have no commerical or competitive position. </p>
<p>The reality though appears to be different, it seems that this is all about the commercial and competitive position of IBM, and probably a couple of other well known corporations who have yet to step into the light. </p>
<p>At the end of the day the IBM&#8217;s engineers can argue for one thing, but the business will make its decisions based upon customer and market demand.</p>
<p>It will be entertaining to look back on this whole process 10 years from now, maybe then will we know the real roles of the various participants.</p>
<p>As for the question of who has a right to play a role in the debate&#8230; well, it is an open debate playing out both in the marketplace and within ISO, so all voices are valid. Employees of Microsoft, Sun and IBM, my uncle fred, my uncle fred&#8217;s tennis partner, the chap I met as I got off the tube in London two weeks ago whos name I can&#8217;t remember, and anybody else who has a view.</p>
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		<title>By: Avner Kashtan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avner Kashtan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S: Are you saying that Microsoft and IBM employees cannot blog an valid opinion on the whole ODF-OOXML topic, since they are, as they say, party to the whole mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S: Are you saying that Microsoft and IBM employees cannot blog an valid opinion on the whole ODF-OOXML topic, since they are, as they say, party to the whole mess?</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(disclaimer : I don&#039;t work at IBM)

I&#039;ve read Rob&#039;s post and he made clear that none of their products natively supported OOXML right now.

To refute that, you are coming up with an official announcement from someone at IBM saying that IBM will support OOXML.

I&#039;m not sure how that refutes what Rob said.

But I&#039;m sure you have a good reason to say so.

Of course, as a Microsoft employee, I&#039;m not sure how much your voice counts. You can&#039;t be judge and party.

Your blog post itself is extremely confusing to say the least, since you manage to link to completely unrelated blog posts, doing your best to imagine a connection between them.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve read Rob&#8217;s post and he made clear that none of their products natively supported OOXML right now.</p>
<p>To refute that, you are coming up with an official announcement from someone at IBM saying that IBM will support OOXML.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how that refutes what Rob said.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sure you have a good reason to say so.</p>
<p>Of course, as a Microsoft employee, I&#8217;m not sure how much your voice counts. You can&#8217;t be judge and party.</p>
<p>Your blog post itself is extremely confusing to say the least, since you manage to link to completely unrelated blog posts, doing your best to imagine a connection between them.</p>
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		<title>By: Noticias externas</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Noticias externas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Links for 1-25-08...&lt;/strong&gt;

A few interesting and entertaining links to end the week: IBM&#039;s Stance Against OpenXML Is Increasingly...</description>
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<p>A few interesting and entertaining links to end the week: IBM&#39;s Stance Against OpenXML Is Increasingly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Jones: Open XML Formats</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Jones: Open XML Formats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Links for 1-25-08...&lt;/strong&gt;

A few interesting and entertaining links to end the week: IBM&#039;s Stance Against OpenXML Is Increasingly...</description>
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<p>A few interesting and entertaining links to end the week: IBM&#8217;s Stance Against OpenXML Is Increasingly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Mahugh</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Mahugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Open XML links for 01-25-2008...&lt;/strong&gt;

TechDays 2008. TechDays 2008 is coming soon to Ghent, and Gill Cleeren has the details. I enjoyed presenting...</description>
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<p>TechDays 2008. TechDays 2008 is coming soon to Ghent, and Gill Cleeren has the details. I enjoyed presenting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ZenIT Blog</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>ZenIT Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;IBM annuncia il supporto di Open XML in Lotus e nei prodotti portal...&lt;/strong&gt;

Technorati Tags: Microsoft , Office , OOXML Voglio solo segnalare questi tre link dove viene data la...</description>
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<p>Technorati Tags: Microsoft , Office , OOXML Voglio solo segnalare questi tre link dove viene data la&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adiafora &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IBM e il suo supporto di Open XML</title>
		<link>http://osrin.net/2008/01/ibms-stance-against-openxml-is-increasingly-confusing/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Adiafora &#187; Blog Archive &#187; IBM e il suo supporto di Open XML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dice Olivier Bell, questo potrebbe essere interpretato come approvazione da parte di Heintzman dei passi che [...]</description>
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