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		<title>Stop Kicking, Start Teaching</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So far it has been a pretty educational week for me here at OSCON in Portland, it has been great to meet new people as well as an opportunity to catch up with old friends. As I mentioned in an &#8230; <a class="more-link" href="http://osrin.net/2008/07/stop-kicking-start-teaching/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far it has been a pretty educational week for me here at OSCON in Portland, it has been great to meet new people as well as an opportunity to catch up with old friends.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in an earlier post the week started for me with <a href="http://participate08-opensource.com/Home.html">Participate08</a>, an open discussion about several aspects of the open source industry as it exists today. The discussion covered several dimensions including hybrid business models, community inclusion, motivations for involvement and a discussion around intellectual property.</p>
<p>The conversation itself has been well documented by others, here is an <a href="https://fossbazaar.org/?q=content/oscon-day-1-participate08">example from Phil Robb</a> and another from <a href="http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2008/07/microsoft_at_os.html?source=rss">Zack Urlocker</a>, so I won&#8217;t go into any depth around that. A quick web search will find you a few more along with a diverse set of personal opinions on the day.</p>
<p>What I would like to do is think a little about a single statement that was made by one of the panelists during the afternoon conversation.</p>
<p>The discussion turned to Microsoft&#8217;s relationship with OSS community, touching on our evolving strategy to increase our general level of involvement with the community. As might be expected a couple of predictable comments were then made about past statements made by various people from Microsoft about Open Source.</p>
<p>One of the panelists then talked a little about what it takes to bring a new member into a community project and some of the phases that a lot of organizations go through as they learn how to work with the wider open source community. They talked about a common pattern of kicking new members for a little while, then eventually moving on into a mode of teaching the new member more about the community and the most effective way to participate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve <a href="http://osrin.net/2008/06/im-a-believer/">talked in the past</a> about the growing number of employees within the company who are starting to recognize the opportunity that the open source world presents for Microsoft, and I think the statement made by the panelist applies well to those folks.</p>
<p>Speaking from a personal point of view I&#8217;m keen to learn, indeed that is exactly why I&#8217;m here in Portland this week and it&#8217;s why I have worked hard on some of the relationships I have with OSS leaders in Asia.</p>
<p>The kicking is pretty unproductive, the teaching and learning has a lot more potential&#8230;</p>
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